User talk:JayDK103

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Previous Seasons
Yes, I do intend to add previous seasons. I'm almost finished with Season 5 information, and I plan to add Season 1 info next. Even without YouTube videos, I'll try to find a way to watch the videos online if I can (legally) find them. The articles will not include as many videos, unfortunately.

Erik10101 09:40, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Audition All Stars
So, what I'm doing very soon is making an "Audition All Stars" category, which will be a subcategory of Guest Performers. I want to keep them separated because Guest Performers will also include acts like Recycled Percussion and Quick-Change (who performed in Season 5). I like the All Stars as a separate category because they've become a unique tradition on AGT. Erik10101 02:14, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Admin Rights?
Hi! I have noticed that you have contributed A LOT of useful info, something I have had very little time for recently. How would you like to become an AGT Wiki admin? You will gain the rights to ban users and edit pages like the Wiki Navigation.

Erik10101 (talk) 15:29, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

You are now an admin. :)

Erik10101 (talk) 03:43, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

What you're doing right now, creating the pages for the acts, is basically what needs to be done for Seasons 1-4. Also, if possible, it would be great if you could add "Backgrounds" to some of the Season 5-7 act pages.

Erik10101 (talk) 03:52, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

I'll take care of that for now.

Erik10101 (talk) 05:41, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

76.119.48.21
This user put false information into the article Cubby twice. I reverted both of his edits. He is also creating useless categories. Is there anything you can do to stop this user? --68.45.225.205 22:36, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

69.248.142.63
This user put unverified information into the article Kazoo Chorus twice without a source to back up his claims. I reverted both of his edits. Is there anything you can do to stop this user? 68.45.225.205 16:11, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

68.37.212.132
This user put unverified information into the article JADA twice without a source to back up his claims. I reverted both of his edits. Then he did the same thing to the article Kazoo Chorus once. I reverted that edit. Is there anything you can do to stop this user? --68.45.225.205 02:28, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Re: People who got eliminated on the Season 7 Quarterfinals
Sorry, but I don't see any use for it. I think it should be deleted. 68.45.225.205 18:26, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

I have an account
Hey there. It's 68.45.225.205. I want you to know that I created an account, so if you need to talk to me, post on this account's talk page. --TyberZannxxxx (talk) 19:22, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

We have a Season 7 picture for Walt Winston, sent to us by America's Got Talent! can we, or someone else who has knowledge post it for his wiki page. The pic is of he and his wife and has not been published as it's only been seen at his home in their hallway as a collage of  beautiful pictures of the lovely couple for their wedding. I'm just a family member who is a big fan of the show and of the Winstons. Can you please post his video of his Season 7 audition though it didn't air? Or at least a link to his song which I've seen on youtube. Also we have some wedding pictures if we can post them here for his fans and the fans of AGT to see! I'm sure Walt wouldn't mind if you ask him.

96.35.34.134 18:53, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Jay

68.45.225.205 known as Tyber seems to think he can violate the DMCA by wanting to delete the Walt Winston page claiming that none of the legitimate information is relevant to AGT when in fact it is. We took the liberty to add a source for our information on the title and publishing with a link to BMI which is a legitimate source for our edits which in turn makes our edits relevant to AGT for both Seasons 6 & 7. Every producer knows Mr. Winston by name and will easily recall his appearances in both Minneapolis and in St. Louis. 68.45.225.205  needs to be kindly reminded that the information is legitimate and if need be we can send you the emails from the program to Mr. Winston indicating that yes he did make the cut and performed in front of the judges. We have the song list requested by the producers for the judges round as well as the BMI paperwork for the selection(s) that he performed on the programs as well as the royalty statement from BMI for his Season 6 performance. Any info you need from us please send us an email or send an email to Mr. Winston direct.

Venus Mercury

Walteria Records / Wally Goat Music (BMI)24.217.234.45 11:53, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

New Pages
Hey Jay,

I noticed that you are creating a lot of new pages. Although there's nothing wrong with that, I don't know if that's the best decision because those pages are very bare. It can be annoying when you click in an auditions page an act and it offers very little information.

Would you mind adding content to already existing pages (especially shortpages ( http://agt.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ShortPages )) instead? That would be great if you have the time.

Erik10101 (talk) 04:40, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Most of those images were replaced because their shapes were different than the other ones from their season. Basically, I wanted to standardize the size ratios as much as I could, which is why I replaced a few of them. I can tell you cut some of the images which is appreciated, but posting screencaps is what I think is better. It's not too big of a deal though.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:16, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Images
Hey,

Your creating all these Season 3 articles is extremely appreciated! Thank you! Would you mind not "editing" (cutting) the images like you did with Paul West & Tucker? The images for the acts are usually screencaps. Cutting the images makes the site less uniform. You don't need to take the extra time to cut them. :)

Erik10101 (talk) 01:42, July 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't watch it in full screen. I usualy just "Print Screen" the full video image and cut out anything that is not the video. It's probably what you do, only I keep the entire video.


 * Thanks! They seem better so far, but the bottom of the George the Giant Pic seems cut off. It isn't too big of a deal though, because it's the same size as the other Season 4 pics (i.e a rectangle and not a square).
 * Erik10101 (talk) 02:19, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

For drag acts, I would refer to them by what they're born as (for Dorae, male) rather than what they seem to associate with. That's why I changed Gender to Sex for all the acts. Although Dorae may consider his gender Female, his sex is Male.

Erik10101 (talk) 04:52, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

New Singer Categories?
I've been considering creating new categories for "Male Singers," "Female Singers," and "Vocal Duos," because the Singer category for every Season is always very big. What do you think?

This would be the new Singer Organization:

Male Singers - Solo Male Singers

Female Singers - Solo Female Singers

Vocal Duos - Duos (Male or Female)

Singing Groups (Groups of 3 or more)

Do you like that idea, or do you think it is fine the way it is? If we do make that change, the categories will have to be added to A LOT of acts.

Erik10101 (talk) 05:36, July 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * No need to split up Duos by gender. Kid Acts would be  an interesting category, but I don't know if it would be the best idea because some acts like Miami All Stars have kids in them, but are mostly adult acts. There's the question of whether they count as kid acts or not. Same with acts like Christina and Ali (one is over 18, the other is not). And then there's a large group of acts whose age is never revealed. Guessing based on appearance is too random, I think, to make a category based on age.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:51, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, if we start adding the categories, we should also take away the "Singers" category altogether. It's too broad. So act by act, we should add the new categories and take out the Singers and Season X Singers ones.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 07:13, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * If there is a way, I don't know it, unfortunately.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 07:18, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Most likely male. He/she was presented with the other Drag Acts in the Auditions All Stars, so that seems likely that he's male as well.
 * By the way, I'm going to head to bed soon as soon as I finish the pages for the Accepted Acts from last night's episode. Don't worry about getting all the Singers re-categorized. There's plenty of time for that. :)
 * Erik10101 (talk) 07:23, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Even though Eric doesn't sing, I would count duos with instrumentalists (who don't sing) into Vocal Duos because Season 7 sorted Eric & Olivia with Jorge and Alexa. The Millers is a vocal duo, and the harmonica player did sing for their first audition. I would say from now on, a "Band" on the Wiki must have three or more member. Not sure if Aaralyn & Izzy should be considered a Band or Vocal Duo, but that can be your call.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 07:52, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Singer and Instrumentalist Duo
That's a perfect idea, just having both Female Singer and Instrumentalist.

Erik10101 (talk) 07:56, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

76.208.144.214
I'll give him a day or two to answer, then I'll reverse all of the proof-less edits. There may be some truth to what he/she posted, but I highly doubt it.

For example, they put that Brad Byers withdrew.

https://www.facebook.com/brad.byers.10

But he actually advertised the episode this week, so there's no way he withdrew.

Erik10101 (talk) 21:37, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Unnamed Acts
Creating such a page would be very beneficial, but it sounds like a lot of trouble taking snapshots and figuring out which episodes have them. If we can make one, that would be great, but I think there are more important things to work on such as finishing Season 3 and creating articles for Season 4. Thankfully, though, Season 8 only has two unnamed acts so far.

By the way, what do you think about the new episode threads (for example, Episode 804). Somebody thought they would be a great addition, and I think they're an organized way to view an episode in more detail rather than just the list of names in the Season 8 Auditions page.

Erik10101 (talk) 01:37, July 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * I was considering including buzzers, but I decided not to since buzzers tend to correlate with "No" votes and it could get confusing if there were multiple X's, or a buzzer but still a "Yes" (like with Howard and Aaralyn and Izzy). I'll include buzzers in the live show episodes though because there is no official vote.


 * Sure, you can make a page. We can add a notice saying "If you know the name of any of these acts, please contact..."


 * Those were actually my additions. Looking back on them now, I completely agree they were pointless. :)


 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:49, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Recognized Act
I saw your Season 2 Unnamed acts page. Great job on it! I think the unnamed magician is actually Mr. Mystic PTP from Season 6. (http://mrmystic.com/ ) Do you see the resemblance? He even has the same vortex medallion.

Erik10101 (talk) 02:26, July 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, hopefully we do find the other ones. It's great that we have a visual of all those acts now since it's impossible to find their names with just what their act was.

Hey, don't worry about editing the page.

I'll take care of that part.

Erik10101 (talk) 01:39, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Vegas
Yeah, at least two of them were definitely new.

Erik10101 (talk) 02:16, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Vegas
Hey, if you're looking for something to do, can you copy and paste this into all the Quarterfinalist pages?

"""""

BLANK was one of thirty acts to advance straight to the Quarterfinals in New York without performing in Las Vegas in Episode 808.



Quarterfinals
"""""

In the video, Howie said 55. I don't remember what it said on TV. Maybe it is 60?

YouTube Round was always useless. No one good except Jackie Evancho really came out of it.

Erik10101 (talk) 03:03, July 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, I didn't hear that. I'll change it to 60 acts.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 03:14, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Forte
Yeah, it should. I'll take another screenshot.

Erik10101 (talk) 12:01, July 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Just a heads up: I won't be able to be online until around 10:30 PM, so I won't come home until after the full episode has aired.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 12:37, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Favorite acts? That's a tough one. This season's shaping up to be one of the most talented yet.


 * My favorites are Kenichi Ebina, Sam Johnson, Timber Brown, Sprice, and Special Head (not for his talent though; he's just a really interesting character).
 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:22, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I totally agree that it was annoying that singers (except Terry - he's one-of-a-kind) won ever year until last. They have SO MANY other shows to audition for like The Voice, X-Factor, American Idol, etc.

Collins Key
Ha, Collins mentioned the site and its fan poll on a stream the other night. He mentions the site starting at 9:12, and he managed to get his fans to vote him to the top. Our site looks so good he thought it was from the actual AGT people. But apparently, what I do is kind of disturbing...

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/collinskey?utm_campaign=t.co&utm_source=15015249&utm_medium=social

Erik10101 (talk) 04:40, July 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree that this week has a lot of talented acts. Based purely on their first performances and their fanbases, I think American Hitmen (consistently hyped by Howard and they have the whole military thing going for thing), Anna Christine (like Anna Graceman, only better, and the first Anna made the Semi's), Collins Key (the youngest AGT magician I can remember, and he has that whole teenage heartthrob thing going for him), and Special Head (even though his trick isn't that impressive if you know how it's done, he has that character and novelty that if he keeps up can get him to the next round) will make it.


 * The acts that have a chance if they do something spectacular are Aaralyn & Izzy (a lot of people think they're untalented, and people always complain that they made it on Facebook, but they are very popular on YouTube, as you said), Branden James (opera singers have always done well on this show), Hype (they're unique as dancers), and KriStef Brothers (very athletic and funny, but people may not think they are taking the competition seriously).


 * The acts that have no chance are Fresh Faces (only seen once in a montage, nothing too spectacular), Kevin Downey Jr. (we have only seen one joke from him, and it wasn't very funny to me), and Tellavision (they seem limited in what they can do, both with the screens and dance, but they can surprise if they're innovative enough).


 * Both Travis and Milton coming back seems really likely for me. I also see Howie bringing back Sully Dunn, Mel B bringing back 212 Green, and Heidi bringing back Dylan Wilson. If American Hitmen doesn't make it this week, Howard will definitely bring them back for the Wild Card.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:13, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Divide up Episode Work
Hey JayDK,

Do you want to divide up the work? One of us can edit the Season 8 Quarterfinals and Episode 810 threads and the other can add the videos and performance descriptions to the act pages.

That way, we can avoid edit clashes.

Erik10101 (talk) 01:11, July 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sounds good! This way we will be done much more quickly.
 * To be totally honest, this episode was kind of lackluster, but it did have its moments. I think Branden James and Collins Key are locks for the Top 3. I think Anna Christine has a good chance of being in Top 3 as well, and American Hitmen and KriStef Brothers will be voted on by the judges. I wouldn't be surprised if Alexanderia was somewhere among them, but I don't think anyone else has a chance of making it.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 03:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC
 * http://agt.wikia.com/wiki/Season_8_Quarterfinals#Week_2
 * Tellavision - Yeah, i would just leave it. it's a very small deal, and very few people will type it correctly if we do tellAvision anyway.Erik10101 (talk) 13:53, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am very pleased with the results, but I actually wish the judges had voted for American Hitmen. Nevertheless, I like all four of the acts. I doubted KriStef to make it even though I like them, but I underestimated their popularity.


 * How I would rank the Winners...
 * 7. Kevin Skinner
 * 6. Bianca Ryan
 * 5. Neal E. Boyd
 * 4. Olate Dogs (only because they were SO repetitive)
 * 3. Landau Eugene Murphy, Jr.
 * 2. Michael Grimm
 * 1. Terry Fator


 * How do you rank the winners? Any early predictions for Week 2? Erik10101 (talk) 02:59, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think Collins' tricks are different enough, but I can see how they can get repetitive. I hope he does an amazing big illusion next time. I love watching those, especially when they're innovative.
 * Here's how I rank the act's chances of moving on:
 * 1. Forte (they are a lock this round and a potential winner)
 * 2. Marty Brown
 * 3. Ciana Pelakai
 * 4. Angela Hoover
 * 5. Alexandr Magala
 * 6. Aquanuts
 * 7. Tone the Chiefrocca (if he does a different catchy song, he could do better)
 * 8. Innovative Force
 * 9. Brad Byers (i like him, but America doesn't like sideshow acts)
 * 10. Kid the Wiz
 * 11. Dave Shirley
 * 12. Struck Boyz (they are nothing special)
 * I think the singers are going to dominate this round. Erik10101 (talk) 03:26, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I would expect voters to be mostly female. Brad is going to have a hard time moving on. Collins definitely moved on in part to his looks, but his trick was admittedly impressive.
 * No, there's no need to use those pics. Some of them lack all the members of a group, and some Top 60 acts don't even have pics. The pics we have are fine, plus it makes those acts more consistent with the rest of Season 8.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 14:20, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Tonight's Order
Hey JayDK. The order for tonight seems to be in this video.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12hyut_top-60-performs-agt-2013_tv

Erik10101 (talk) 01:20, July 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * I thought the video had Alex 3rd and Struck Boyz 4th.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:28, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a tough one. I think Forte, Ciana, and Tone the Chiefrocca (who would have ever guessed they would get the coveted last slot?) will be America's saves. The vote will be between Alexandr, Innovative Force, and Marty, and the judges will pick Alexandr? Everyone was pretty even tonight, so who knows?
 * Erik10101 (talk) 03:45, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think Tone deserves to move on, but he was without-a-doubt memorable on an average night. Aquanuts' act doesn't translate well on TV. Now that I think about it, Angela could make it. I wouldn't be surprised if she did.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 03:51, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just a heads up - I will be coming home at around 10:30 EST tomorrow night, so I won't be able to help until the episode is over.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:14, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * I just came home, and I am shocked and super-disappointed about that result as well... O_o.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 02:26, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't give up on the show just yet. Next week looks STACKED.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 02:34, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't be surprised at all if Jimmy Rose wins. He has a great voice, plus he sings country. After the big controversy of Marty making it last week, I don't expect him to make it past the Top 10. I don't think Marty can win. Then again, country singers have been doing really well on reality TV shows like X-Factor and The Voice. We'll see. I'm hopeful that we won't have a country singer win, but I'm worried one will. I don't mind as much if an opera singer wins since there is no other reality show for them, but most of the normal singers on the show can go on any other singing show and get more exposure as singers.


 * Do you have any predictions for Top 4, even though the number of finalists isn't confirmed yet? I think Catapult, Forte, Jimmy, and Kenichi have a good chance. Maybe Collins too.


 * I actually really like next week's group, especially Kenichi, Chicago Boyz, Leon Etienne, and Jim Meskimen. I agree though that none of them are likely winners.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 03:03, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * I meant Top 4 in the entire season. Do you have any guesses yet?


 * From the first two Quarterfinals, I see Hitmen, Alexandr, Ciana, and Tone the Chiefrocca returning. I expect from Vegas to return Milton Patton, Dylan Wilson, and Travis Pratt.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:10, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hm, I didn't think about that. Travis probably won't return if Jonathan makes it. He does offer a "feminine" side of opera that none of the others do though. Interesting choices. Forte seems more compelling to me than Branden James, but who knows what America would think? I don't watch X-Factor. I watch The Voice casually to fill the AGT void during the winter months.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 07:00, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it! We all have other places to be sometimes. :)


 * I loved the episode. It blew the first two out of the water! I think Kenichi and American Military Spouses arose as potential winners after the episode.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:37, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Last year, America showed a shying away from singers toward the Finals (not any of the "Top 8" were singers). I'm hoping that trend continues as they realize how brilliant acts like Kenichi, KriStef Brothers, and Collins are, and how at-least-different Forte and American Spouses are.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:55, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * True, I didn't think about that. I hope a country singer doesn't win this year, but admittedly Jimmy Rose was incredible. He would be deserving. I'm just really annoyed that some un-talented acts like Kevin Skinner won or singers who screwed up like Marty made it just because they're country.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:25, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Buzzers
I don't know if that's feasible. The tables are already kind of cramped as they are.

Here are my early predictions:

Week 4: Jimmy Rose, Taylor Williamson, Timber Brown, SensEtion make it through. Other acts that I wouldn't be surprised to see make it are 3Penny, Aerial Ice, David Ferman, and Chloe Channell. Everyone else is a long shot.

Week 5: Catapult, Sprice, Dave Fenley, Sam Johnson make it through. Other acts that I wouldn't be surprised to see make it are Duo Resonance, John Wing, Red Panda, and VSU Gospel Chorale. The sibling dancers might make it too, but I doubt it because they will inevitably split the votes of America, their family, and their friends. Everyone else is a long shot.

Erik10101 (talk) 07:58, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hopes for Season
I'm definitely disappointed by the glut of singers in the Semifinals (and people are STILL complaining that Milton and Travis got eliminated...), but I have hopes that we'll get a non-solo singer winner. None of the solo singers are anywhere as good as the variety acts like Kenichi or Timber, and the group singers (like Forte). I hate that the country singing crowd is so vehement about getting their people through (Marty, Jimmy, and Chloe very nearly made it),  but what are you going to do.

Of the 16 Semifinalists, 8 are singing. As long as the number stays at half or drops to less than half, I'm okay. I have hopes that we will have a deserving winner.

Erik10101 (talk) 02:00, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

I don't use my Facebook for AGT stuff, but I follow all of them on Twitter (https://twitter.com/AgtWiki) even though I never tweet.

I don't think we should incorporate BGT stuff here. It is an AGT wiki, and I think it would confuse people mixing them. I think it would make a great different Wiki! The one there is right now is quite incomplete (http://britainsgottalent.wikia.com/wiki/Britain%27s_Got_Talent_Wiki). I've watched a couple of acts on YouTube, but I don't think I have the time to invest myself into another show. I love that they have so many different kinds of winners! Hopefully AGT follows suit. I just hope another male solo singer doesn't win again...

Erik10101 (talk) 05:30, August 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I wish American voters voted more like British voters. The amazing diversity of the competitors on AGT isn't reflected in our winners. I'm okay with Forte or AMSC winning, but basically all the other singers have other shows to audition in (X-Factor, Idol, The Voice). It's unfair to all the other acts since AGT is the only show they can really compete in.


 * Yep, no Wild Card Show This year. There is one more "Finals" round this year instead of only one like last year. So same amount of live shows as Season 7.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:06, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

Next Week
Honestly, I don't really know what's happening. Nick announced there would be 12 acts next week, but only 8 were announced. I'm guessing there are some from this week and maybe Tone and Duo performing, but that's not confirmed yet.

Erik10101 (talk) 02:51, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thankfully, Twitter only accounts for a small percentage of the votes. Kenichi 100% deserves to reach Top 6.

24.180.19.86 22:32, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Winner
YES!

Erik10101 (talk) 03:05, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with you 100%. Jimmy still out-lasted some way-better talents (Collins and Forte), but America proved itself capable of making good decisions. At last, the most qualified act of the season has won, and the third-place curse is broken.


 * Jimmy winning would have really hurt the show's credibility. Kenichi will surely become a huge star. Erik10101 (talk) 03:11, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

The Voice
A Voice Wiki is definitely something I would love to edit, but I am swamped with non-Wiki projects. I haven't even be able to watch the show this season.

Perhaps one day I will be able to contribute, but I definitely support improving the infrastructure of The Voice wiki as it is right now. Plus, it's so much easier to add to than AGT Wiki because all the acts are singers instead of jugglers/magicians/dancers, and for descriptions of what they did, you just need the song.

Erik10101 (talk) 02:07, November 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Those are all great ideas! It's also great that The Voice provides the names and ages of all its artists, so research should be simple.




 * Yeah, I keep up with The Apprentice. :D


 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:51, November 3, 2013 (UTC)