User talk:JayDK103

Unseen Acts / BGT
About Unseen Acts, I don't think we need a page for those acts. It's a waste of time because not only will editors have to put time into making the pages and regulating them for future updates, but nobody who watches the show will care in the slightest. We won't even have video of them doing anything related to the show besides maybe watching another act perform. Take Derek for example. Why waste a page on him if we didn't even hear him sing? I'm more personally against this because I always find all the backgrounds and external links for all the acts.

Some acts who did appear need to be kept in there even if you didn't see them on tv. It's not a waste of space to some of the people that were actually onstage with the act. Walt Winston in Season 7 appeared his wife was the back story and now she's dying of kidney failure and you guys cut the picture off the wikia? That's a disservice to her and Walt's fans.

Technically, duplicate wikis are perfectly allowed as long as you don't "disrupt" the other wiki. If you do end up making a wiki, we can easily make AGT Wiki and your wiki partners and make your Wiki bigger than the other one... but this depends on how much you and others want to put into it. I suggested reading this before making any decisions: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Duplicate_wikias.

Erik10101 (talk) 03:08, July 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, if we know the names, we can just keep them bolded but not linked.


 * Since summer is winding down, I really can't help with BGT much, but I'm willing to help out with templates if you need it!


 * Erik10101 (talk) 03:57, July 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's perfectly fine for you to use the same templates! Good that you have a handle on it.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:13, July 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, building a Wiki up from a show with 10 years of history is definitely a big commitment. Unless you really want to, it might not be worth it.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:36, July 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * He also didn't get any standing ovations, some of the judges commented that his act was small, and the judges weren't as enthusiastic about him than even some other acts tonight. Judges (especially Howie) will turn on him near the finale. There's no chance he can win unless all the frontrunners mess up. He was talented enough tonight to make it through since he really was among the top singers. This is just the Top 36 though. Like I said earlier, he doesn't have as much appeal as other acts like hi that have made it through.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 03:13, July 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Kevin Skinner was in a very weak season and in the middle of a singer curse for AGT. Jimmy still didn't win because he was clearly outmatched by Kenichi and couldn't compete with Taylor's teen/comedy following. Also he had earlier had a viral audition and a lot of press. Benton has none of that outside of his fan circle. AGT wouldn't risk the integrity of having the 10th anniversary winner, following two huge successes like Kenichi and Mat Franco, with a plain singer. Too much more popular competition with huge AGT fan followings like Piff and Drew. No doubt he can make it far, but when we get down to Top 6, there's no chance.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 03:42, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

I just checked AGT's YouTube page, and Benton only has 3000 views while Oz, Triple Threat, and Paul all have over 10,000. Animation Crew has over 5000. Plus, his AGT YouTube video literally only has 30 seconds of his performance. We'll see how the competition goes; a lot can change in seven weeks.

Yeah, don't forget you thought Jaycob would win last year, but he quickly lost momentum when the judges stopped gushing over him. Honestly, I thought the results were spot on. The seven that made it through were the most talented of the night.

I don't know when Gettyimages will be updated, so I'll just be keeping an eye out on Twitter from all of the acts who haven't perform in Judge Cuts yet.

Erik10101 (talk) 05:16, July 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * Oleksiy was good, but the problem is that he did not do a lot new. Plus, I never got the sense that he was fully balanced.


 * If I could pick six deserving acts, based ONLY on what we've seen so far:


 * 1. Drew Lynch - Outside of AGT, I have seen his YouTube channel and read his tweets; he has a winning personality and some great humor.


 * 2. Freckled Sky - They gave arguably the best audition of the season. It was utterly breathtaking! I hope they can somehow follow through.


 * 3. Piff the Magic Dragon - He is the overwhelming frontrunner right now. He is huge on social media, gets millions of YouTube views, and has the talent and humor to back it up.


 * 4. Oz Pearlman - His trick tonight was incredible. His acts are always polished and flawless. I really respect his kind of magic.


 * 5. Vox - I love the opera groups on AGT, and Vox does not disappoint. They did a rendition of a "Carmen" song on YouTube, and it is heavenly.


 * 6. This spot is split evenly between Uzeyer, CraigLewis Band, Triple Threat, Paul Zerdin, Alex Boye, Siro-A, and Stevie Starr barring more performances.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:10, July 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Stevie probably won't make the Top 12 even. Did he perform on BGT on a season Piers was on? It will be interesting whether Piers mentions BGT if so. Haha, I didn't mean mentally. I just felt like he was shaking a lot, and I didn't get the sense he could handle the tougher tricks. Hm, maybe not Top 6, but easily Top 12 together like last year's magicians. But yeah, they'll probably do a little showdown between the two near the end. Agreed about the four you mentioned, though I do like all of them. I actually like both 3 Shades and Mountain Faith a lot, but I just like Triple Threat and Vox more. Plus, no band this season has blown me away like Sons of Serendip did.


 * Yeah, I get that error occasionally too (but not right now). I wonder if there's a way we can archive our talk pages because they are getting pretty long.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:31, July 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * I wonder if Piers will even react to seeing him again. Maybe the show will edit that out if it happens.
 * I really like Paul, but I'm not sure if his humor will resonate really well with the voting audience. But I wouldn't count him out.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:45, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

The third guy in the sneak peek gallery looks like Aaron Smyth to me. Hope that helps.

--YoungGeezer (talk) 12:07, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

I actually don't recognize the robot group at all. Nice find of Kayvon Zand; yeah, he probably gets buzzed out. 3 like YoungGeezer said might be Aaron Smyth, but the guy in the sneak peek seems blonde, not a brunette. The dance group definitely is The Move. I have been having a really hard time finding any social media for them because the their name is so generic.

Erik10101 (talk) 19:19, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Hey there, i'm just wondering so next week is the 4th and last week of the Judge Cuts for AGT. What will happen with the rest of the acts that didn't get to perform on the Judge Cuts?

(The above is from a different user)

Weird that Heavenly's not in here cosnidering how popular is, but oh well. I wonder how the producers/judges decided which acts would not be in the Top 80. I mean, they let in acts like Samantha Hess and Qi Feilong that were never going to make it far. All the ones you mentioned are good, but at least none of them were contenders to win.

It's an interesting batch! I still hate what AGT producers do with these unknowns. We know from GettyImages that this was filmed before Season 10 premiered. So why are dozens of acts (more than half of those in our "Did Not Appear" in Judge Cuts list) getting montage screentime, while these guys get none? It's baffling to me and disrespectful to the acts who made it this far. Alicia's really forgettable. Assuming she makes it (she probably will since there's only one other female singer competing, and we know she is going out. They love to do showdowns on the Judge Cuts), she'll get out pretty soon. Samantha Johnson is so much stronger than her (from what we have heard).

Yeah, hopefully Jamie gets some screentime! We have been surprisingly light on impressionists this season. It'd be great too if he did some Robin. I don't remember Technicianz at all, haha.

Erik10101 (talk) 01:51, July 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * Their helmets actually look really similar, so I think it actually is them. I'll look into it when I research the new acts for their pages.


 * Yeah, the stunt episodes were a waste of time. I wonder if those acts were even officiallly part of the competition, or if they were just exhibition acts like Tao Porchon-Lynch.


 * Yeah, some of the omissions are baffling considering who actually gets to compete!


 * Erik10101 (talk) 03:23, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Wait, what? Do you mean locks to be eliminated? Every sign points to Kayvon getting buzzed out. It's hard to interpret sarcasm over the internet, if you are. My personal predictions are Vox (they are talented and classy enough to win Piers's Golden Buzzer), Alex, Alicia, Duo Volta, Semeneya, Siro-A, and Stevie Starr.


 * Right now, nothing. I'll just undo his edits. I find it odd he's not replying; a simple "I was there" would be enough for me to keep his edits. Since his edits aren't particularly disruptive (deleting all the contents of a page or spamming), there's no need to block him unless he starts edit warring. Yeah, the Diego issue was something I actually learned pretty recently.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 08:47, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Haha, knew something was up when you didn't even mention Vox. Derek has an outside chance of making it, but he really has to bring it. There's strong magic competition in Piff and Oz and I'm not sure Derek stands out. On Twitter, Leroy has tweeted about Piers being a "fool," so odds are he won't make it.
 * I don't want both Alex and Alicia to make it (though I loved Alex's audition), but I can't see it not happening. Alex seems like a lock because his energy is so special. Alicia has this old-time soul that the judges send thruogh every season.Their main competition are Kayvon and Kacey, and we already know both of them are out. Either way, Alicia will get steamrolled by Samantha Johnson in the Semis. Yeah, I saw Jamie's incredible Robin Williams tribute video, and his impressions were spot-on. Having seen so little of him on the show, he unfortunately screams "Judge Cuts montage." Stevie is pure novelty, so he has a really good chance. If he does something like his lockbox trip from BGT, he'll probably go through. I don't think America will vote for him though. I think Duwende will only get cut because Vox will get the Golden Buzzer (just like Michael John was overshadowed by Piff and Ryan Shaw by the CraigLewis Band).
 * Erik10101 (talk) 18:26, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

AGT Interviews?
What do you think about the idea of conducting exclusive interviews with acts that have been on the show? We could just ask each act over e-mail or Facebook a couple of general questions like:


 * How has your appearance on the show impacted your life?
 * Do you think the show portrayed your personality accurately, or did they give you a bad edit?
 * What was your favorite performance of yours on the show?
 * Did you make any friends on the show?
 * Who have been your favorite acts on AGT?
 * Who was your favorite judge?
 * Are you watching this season, and if so, which acts are you rooting for?

I feel like doing something like this might add some interesting content to the Wiki. Plus, there are plenty of acts who don't get a lot of attention because they were given so little screentime. This would not be time-consuming because the acts would be supplying the answers. What do you think? It might give us something easy to do over the off-season. Erik10101 (talk) 18:58, July 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * I doubt we'll attract any of those "big names" like Kenichi or Mat, but even though we're not a news site, we do really well. Over the past 30 days, we have had 107,000 unique viewers with 13,000 yesterday alone (if you want access to those stats, I can tell you how to get them). On a peak month, we've had 185,000 viewers in a month, so we can definitely reach out to a lot of AGT fans. I think a lot of acts appreciate the effort we put into their pages, and some acts (Dan Meyer for example) have openly praised or worked with us.


 * Any and all acts, really. We could start out by contacting acts from this season and branch out to older acts in the off-season if this works. We could have a separate set of questions for acts that went far and acts that were cut. We can customize questions for certain acts.


 * I got the idea in a Twitter chat with The Chippendoubles (https://twitter.com/AgtWiki/status/623712375196102656). They mentioned how AGT changed their music, but they don't really have anywhere to say that because not a lot of people paid attention to their appearance.


 * Let me know if I'm being too ambitious, because I'm just excited by the idea for our Wiki to be more of an AGT hub than just an encyclopedia.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 21:55, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's just me on Twitter. Usually I (or my sister)  post live comments during the west coast feed. Send me an email (agtwiki@gmail.com) and i can send you a "shared" password. Yeah, I was surprised about their apperance too. I can't believe the judges were so clueless about who they were impersonating.


 * I just won't contact "those" people. Most of this would probably be over email.


 * By the way, what do you think about the Forum so far? We right now only have two threads, but there's actually some good discussion going on.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:11, July 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, I actually thought Benton was that third act. Feel free to keep private or tell whatever you want. I can tell you that if it's that personal, you probably shouldn't tell me.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 02:12, July 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to hear that. It's never fair to be falsely accused of something. If we do the interview thing, I'll send you a list of who I'm emailing before sending anything so I don't contact this person.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 02:37, July 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * I understand. I'll respect your wishes if I later mention this act.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:25, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

No, I don't think he's threatening. He's saying "If you think it's my friends or family that are helping me the most, you're wrong. These awesome fans for Burke County really have my back when it comes to voting for AGT!"

Honestly, I really think you should stop liking his page and reading his posts, even if you're doing "mole" work. Let him continue engaging his fans (as a stay-at-home dad, he has that time) and converse about whatever. It's not worth your time to express your concerns because in the end, he won't change his opinions from a Facebook post. Give him his time on AGT, however long that might be.

Erik10101 (talk) 02:41, August 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll check that e-mail right now. How bout we just do any chats over email too? I admittedly don't use Facebook much (even less than email).


 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:26, August 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's done
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:28, August 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * He did his Robin Williams impression, but the judges didn't find him funny. It was one of those quick montage acts.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:10, August 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, not "brats" yet. Probably the act right now? Heidi and Mel B buzzed him in auditions, but Howard and Howie liked him earlier.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:22, August 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm really shocked about Vox too. I thought they were a shoo-in. This is probably the hardest week to guess so far.

1. Siro-A (GB) 2. Derek Hughes 3. Duo Volta 4. Alicia Michilli 5. Aaron Smyth 6. Alex Boyé 7. Stevie Starr

Could Vox be a Wild Card, if they are eliminated? Erik10101 (talk) 01:52, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Just a quick question. DO you by any chance know what happened to Heavenly Joy Jerkins? RapunzafanMSP (talk) 02:05, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

I still think you're hyping up Benton's status as a frontrunner way too much (no casual viewer is considering him at all right now), but I digress.

Assuming this 7 for 12 thing is good, only the real "fodder" acts will leave. Piff, Siro-A, and Drew are the three contenders in this round. Triple Threat will have a big following with the teen girl vote. Samantha and Benton will get the solo singer vote. I'll throw in Paul Zerdin since he got a golden buzzer earlier.

Alondra could slip in there (Sebastien made it three years ago). Showproject and Craig and Micheline have the disadvantage of very little screentime plus no Golden Buzzer, so they're done. Vita and The Gentlemen are fodder. Honestly, this feels like an 8-horse race for 7 spots since 4 are cannon fodder.

Piff has performances in the UK scheduled during the last two Quarterfinals weeks. That's why we were able to confirm Week 1. If he does make it to Semis, he'll just return to the show after those two weeks in the UK. I understand the Japanese hate, but I've always been fine with it. The show is allowing them to perform for a reason, whether it be working visas or US citizenship. Ignoring those few haters though, Siro-A's buzz has been overwhelmingly positive. They're locks for Semis, but it'll be interesting what happens when we get the inevitable Siro-A / Freelusion / Freckled Sky showdown.

Erik10101 (talk) 06:57, August 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * I honestly don't think social media matters as much as we think it does. If an act truly stands out AND gets lauded by the judges, it's basically a lock. Remember AcroArmy? They only have 6000 followers yet outlasted basically everybody else with tens of thousands. Wendy Liebman had over 30,000, yet not once was voted in by America.


 * Kenichi was terrible at social media. He admitted so himself. He rarely tweeted or asked people to vote for him. But because he had standout performances week after week, he was unbeatable.


 * Another point to consider: most of Benton's Twitter fan-base is built-in. So far, he hasn't gained a huge fan following with casual AGT viewers like Piff or Drew or Siro-A have. With the onslaught of Google voting and the AGT app, he's going to come at a disadvantage from contestants with more attention and screentime.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 09:12, August 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't think anyone would notice that page, haha. I was experimenting with a better-looking results page in preparation for Wednesday's show. One issue I was having was that the page looks terrible in mobile platforms. I think we should be fine though. Do you think the blue color for "Judges' Choice" is excessive? I can understand why leaving it colorless works.


 * Plus, what do you think about leaving two short tables at the end, sort of like this:


 * ~snip~


 * Sometimes it's nice to see all the acts that made it in one convenient table.


 * To fix the "Group X" bars, you just need to change the "colspan" for the top row. That determines how many columns the top row represents, in this case, all 3.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 23:54, August 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, leaving it white makes sense because the "Judges' Choice" section comes right after.


 * Do you think the final tables could compensate for the colors not showing up on mobile devices?
 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:40, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll just include the tables then. They are easy to make because all the information is also right above.


 * I'll be real with you; you need to chill out about Benton. It's getting a little irritating because no one is talking about him as a contender yet. Plus, we haven't even seen anybody perform live yet. It was after Kenichi's Quarterfinals performance that we knew he had a lot more dance in him. Could anyone have imagined Taylor Wiliamson would get second, beating a favorite country singer all season, even when he needed a Judges' Choice one week? We have no idea if Benton has more than him than yet another song with guitar by himself, whether Piff can sustain his popularity yet again, or whether Siro-A can blow minds a third time. AGT producers didn't even give Benton a full audition.


 * I said this once and I'll say it again because I really do believe it; AGT producers DO NOT want Benton to win. This is the tenth anniversary. If a country singer wins in such a momentous year, he would be very hard to promote unless he was truly spectacular like Emily West was (in which case he would deserve to win... but that's not happening). Knowing the hometown kind of guy Benton is, he would never stay in a Las Vegas residency like Terry Fator or Mat Franco are doing. He is the type of AGT winner that would fade away from public headlines. AGT producers would do a lot backhandedly to prevent him from winning, i.e. giving him bad performing orders, coaching the judges to be more harsh or to mention that he's just a singer like Howie did with Jimmy, etc.


 * I get it. Benton's really active with his fans. He's a stay-at-home dad after all. He's doing a great job with that, but he won't win on social media alone. Unless he has news-worthy performances where he headlines news articles about AGT, buzz for him will stay inside his little niche. He does not have the casual AGT watchers eager about his performances. Every AGT fan who hates Voice-eligible singers (actually a lot of us) are already against him. Piff, Drew, Freckled Sky, and Siro-A have a lot more casual AGT fans rooting for them than Benton does. While Benton's audience is mostly built-in, Drew gained tens of thousands of fans from AGT alone and Freckled Sky basically debuted on AGT.


 * Obviously he's going to make it this week when it's 7 out of 12. He'll sail through with a safety net of six acts more popular than him. But there's no way he has it in him to gain more votes in the Finals more than the best of the best this season. I just don't buy this "he's the frontrunner" idea at all, especially not this early.


 * I didn't mean to go on a rant about this, haha. I think we should continue this after Wednesday's results. It will be very interesting how Benton goes over compared to Piff and Siro-A. If those two outshine him a lot once again, he'll lose steam.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:18, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Four standing ovations! They killed it! Voting order doesn't matter anymore; from now on, voting opens as soon as the show starts. Going first is actually really good for them because a lot of people will vote early, accident or not.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 00:45, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Haha, will do! Benton's 7th (number 6 Piff is about to perform), so it's coming soon!
 * Erik10101 (talk) 00:53, August 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * BB sang "Say Something." No standing ovations. Howard said he was very good, Heidi said she could feel his heart, Mel B said she could feel his nerves early in the song but he recovered, and Howie mentioned Benton's family being proud of him. None of them were particularly enthusiastic.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:15, August 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * His rendition didn't do anything for me, honestly. Anyway, I'll definitely give you my new predictions when the show ends. And yes, Drew knocked it out of the park! It's already obvious he's Howie's favorite this season, haha. He's reached contender status in my book.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:39, August 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Last act (Samantha) is coming up! Btw, Paul Zerdin just killed it with four standing ovations!
 * So far, Siro-A, Drew Lynch, and Paul Zerdin are the clear standouts of the night.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:55, August 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Interesting night. Let's get the elephant out of the room. BB was good tonight. He did pretty much what we expected, and the judges said nice things. They weren't in anyway enthusiastic about him or anything.  He got outshone tonight on four occasions (Samantha got four standing ovations, and Heidi told her that she was the best singer in the competition). Nothing about him tonight screamed "winner." But he'll make it in a week full of fodder acts and slip-ups. I really think you should relax about him, and just enjoy the acts you do like watching.


 * My predictions:
 * Locks: Siro-A, Paul, Drew, Samantha (all enthusiastically received, all really were talented)
 * Likely: Benton, Piff (a clear step down, and it does cut his steam, but he easily has enough followers)
 * Judges' Choice: Alondra and Triple Threat; judges all pick Alondra
 * Dark Horse: Craig and Micheline
 * Fodder: The Gentlemen, Vita, Showproject
 * Erik10101 (talk) 02:07, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Nice picks. I will go with the following:

1. Siro-A

2. Paul Zerdin

3. Samantha Johnson

4. Drew Lynch

5. Piff the Magic Dragon

6. Benton Blount

7. Alondra Santos

Those are who i think will advance to the SemiFinals.

I need to ask is there a Judge Choice and if so would it be the last pick?

Oh Siro-A is an absolute lock this week. I'm somehow less sure about Paul, but 90% of people on Facebook and YT are listing those two as standouts. I voted for Piff, Paul, Siro-A, Drew, and Triple Threat, each 30 times so far. I might vote more later, but I honestly feel all are pretty safe except Triple Threat. Siro-A is 100% safe. They would win any Judges' Choice anyway.

Erik10101 (talk) 06:10, August 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Benton placing above people is never a good thing, but I think Samantha's low placement is a good sign; casual voters really are moving away from singers. Unfortunate that the top five are all male acts, but what can you do?


 * Good point. I'll switch the order since they do go back to the stage at the end anyway!


 * Erik10101 (talk) 00:51, August 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * I think here BB's bigger fanbase made the difference. Good as Samantha is, she's nowhere near Emily West's level and she competed in a weak filled with Golden Buzzer acts and frontrunners. Placing sixth makes sense. Based on last night and knowing the fanbase, I honestly believe Siro-A, Paul, and Drew had the most votes. Piff and Benton were probably fourth and fifth.


 * I feel like, while Piff can recover and redeem himself, Benton really did the best he can do on the stage, as did Samantha. Variety dominated this week.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:49, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * I actually really liked them too, but they're done. Even their biggest fans on YouTube are really disappointed in what they did. Negative comments from the judges and the only buzz of the night sealed the deal.


 * Dude, you need to relax about Benton. It might be good to stop following him on social media or spying on him because in the end, anything you hear will just bum us out.


 * Less than 1% of the people who saw the billboard would check Benton out. Less than 20% of those people would actually feel compelled to watch the show. Less than 50% of those who watched the show would actually vote for him.


 * I don't see any scenario where he wins. Paul Zerdin has all the momentum right now, and even an act like Drew Lynch is beating Benton at the social media game (Drew gained about 6000 Twitter followers in the same period Benton gained about 2000).


 * Plus, the judge bias is going to start playing a bigger role especially once all the best are up there. Howie couldn't love Drew any more. Just tonight, the judges kept saying Sharon was the best singer in the competition. I think his inability to stand out will inhibit him from gaining the momentum to win. While acts like Paul and Siro-A continue to gain masses of casual AGT fans, BB will keep his existing fanbase and gain a couple of casuals. Enough to make the Finals maybe, but win???
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:25, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * (Did I say I didn't think he was going to make it? I thought I actually predicted he would make the Top 12 in his Semi week, but was overjoyed he did not.)
 * Yeah, his social media campaigning is kind of excessive, obnoxious even. It'll be such a great feeling when he gets out, whether in the Semis or the Finals. I think he has a solid chance at Top 12 since Week 2's acts didn't really bring it and Week 3 is all fodder. His Semi's competition will definitely tell a lot.


 * I liked CraigLewis, but I definitely prefer them when it's just the two of them singing without loud background bands and so many lights. Myq bombed. He has the hugest pre-existing fanbase of the 12, so I wouldn't be too surprised if he made the Top 8. Still, basically everyone agrees he wasn't funny. DM Nation was definitely really talented, but their performance seemed really, really similar to their last two acts. I think, if they do move forward, they should wear different outfits and perform with some kind of creative themes. They risk being really repetitive and kind of forgettable. Plus, the lack of some really memorable backstory or interesting personality definitely hurts them. I know you didn't see it in the YouTube video, but Uzeyer promised the judges that his next act will not feature the ladder. Here's hoping he doesn't pull a Sandou Trio (upside-down piano) if he does make it through.


 * Oh, and by the way... Even though I'm still interested in the Interviews idea, I don't have time to pursue it nor do I think it's something the site needs right now.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:51, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I remember now. Still, Jaycob making it through wasn't a big surprise since I had him in contention for a spot anyway. BB winning is not even on my radar. I don't think we have any reason to really worry about BB yet. In the Quarters, he truly was in the Top 7 in talent. We only know for sure that he got more votes than Samantha and Alondra, two singers. I still believe he was 4th or 5th that night. Until he outlasts multiple performers who we thought had a baetter chance of winning than he does, I'll just accept him moving on.


 * Agreed about the other stuff.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:46, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Blown away that Freckled Sky is somehow eliminated.... against Ira and 3 Shades too... I saw Ira in the 6th-8th position, but never saw him winning either the save or Judges' Choice.
 * Blown away that Freckled Sky is somehow eliminated.... against Ira and 3 Shades too... I saw Ira in the 6th-8th position, but never saw him winning either the save or Judges' Choice.


 * Oh and JC categories are a good idea. I think someone also made a Judges' Choice Winners page.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:02, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * At first I was really surprised that Freckled Sky was in 6th-8th place since they were my favorite last night. Then, seeing how close the vote was and reading others' thoughts, I saw that apparently a lot of people thought they were boring last night. Ira was a surprise, but I get his appeal. 3 Shades was decent. Even though there were so many singers that made it tonight, I'm glad that for all of them (except Sharon), AGT is the only show they can showcase their talents. I guess I can live with how the vote went down since JC acts don't often end up staying the next round.


 * Well, BB will keep doing what he wants... I can't wait until he stops posting about AGT ....


 * Yeah, I like Myq a lot too, but his set was kind of lackluster last night. I don't know if it was the weak audience, the producers not letting him tell his best jokes, or his nerves, but he really messed up.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:40, August 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * True, I forgot The Voice does duos too. So few duos actually make it far though, so AGT is the a very good alternative. Sharon though is exactly the kind of singer that would do well on The Voice and get much more exposure and fan support.


 * Judges were pretty lukewarm. Basically every judge said they were good, but not anywhere near as good as their audition. I was shocked with how negative they were tonight. Apparently, the male FS dancer slipped multiple times.


 * I'm surprised so many people like Ira. Granted he's a really good singer, but him getting more votes than Freckled Sky is baffling to me. I think Semis is the farthest he'll go.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:07, August 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * First three acts were total fodder, but the next nine all have a solid chance at the seven spots, with Gary the least likely. Alicia and MFB are on the bubble pending the later acts.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:18, August 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * I actually thought Selected of God was very mediocre tonight. I don't know if they'll make it.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:38, August 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * Honestly, MFB was pretty good imo. I think they'll make it. My other predictions are in the forum thread.


 * Btw, do you think we should stop categorizing Metal Mulisha, Damone, Craig and Micheline, and Showproject as "Wild Cards." They were never eliminated, so they're not necessarily Wild Cards.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:14, August 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's why I think we can't label them as Wild Cards then, because we simply don't know.


 * I just really like how the voice blends with the background music (despite the occasional pitch issues), and the whole Bluegrass spin appealed to me. Singing definitely could have been better, but it wasn't "bad."


 * I wouldn't count Ben out. He did have three standing ovations, and his story is definitely really inspirational. I think he'll at least make the 6th-8th positions for sure. I would be pretty surprised if he didn't win the Judges' Vote against someone else that could be there like Selected of God or Alicia. But who really knows?
 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:40, August 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * Oz, Stevie, and Freelusion are definitely locks. Even if they place in 6th-8th, they'll easily win any Judges' Choice. Daniella could actually be a surprise elimination, but I was very underwhelmed with Alicia tonight. I think Daniella should be able to edge her out because she's more special (opera does well on AGT) and has a social media presence. Admittedly reaction to her vocals was pretty tepid all around.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:47, August 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh, Siro-A will have no problem advancing. 5 out of 12 is a great ratio. I don't think they will win though (group acts are harder to relate to), but Finals easy.


 * Ira, Samantha Johnson, and (presumably) Daniella won't make it. If they barely made 6th-8th place, I don't see these singers in particular stepping it up.


 * Siro-A and Drew are early locks (unless they totally screw up). Oz Pearlman should have an easy time advancing with another great trick, especially when compared with Derek. CraigLewis Band is a favorite music act of many, so I can see them impressing yet again, though they might encounter comparable competition in Samantha. BB should make it with his fanbase and talent, though he might have to win a Dunkin' Save.


 * I don't see Arielle Baril or Mountain Faith standing out in this week, though they are dark horses.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:37, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

End of Season 10
Oh he's a lock honestly. Wouldn't be surprised if he makes Top 3 since Oz isn't nearly as popular as Siro-A and Drew. BB's 9th of 11. Interesting that Arielle is last. Performing last does help, but it's not nearly as important as it used to be, with voting happening from the start of the show.

Erik10101 (talk) 00:22, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry dude, he's a lock for Top 5. Top 3 if Oz doesn't bring it. I don't see Arielle getting more votes than BB because she doesn't necessarily have any fanbase. Oz can beat him if he truly brings down the house, but I don't know if he can pull it off.

Erik10101 (talk) 00:39, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry about seeming "villainous." You have the right to be upset, and although I don't necessarily agree with all your points, I know where you're coming. I know I wasn't nearly as attached to Siro-A as you were. Siro-A is not going to be a Wild Card. First, it's excessive. We had a Wild Card for the Quarterfinals and then another one for the Semis. The producers have to reason to extend the competition yet again, since we're already supposed to have narrowed them down. Second, it would be really unfair to Samantha, who received MORE votes than Siro-A not to get the Wild Card. Do the producers and judges want Siro-A back? Absolutely, but it wasn't in their plans and there's nothing they can do about what America chose.

I agree with every part of the message, and I'm disappointed that BB and SJ received more votes than them, but we just have to move on from that. I'm lucky that I really like all three people who got the most votes (Drew, Oz, and Derek). Despite the voting upset with Siro-A, I'm really glad to get a confirmation that BB only placed fourth. With all you were telling me about social media, I almost believed he could win. Glad that's not the case. It's a shame that Siro-A didn't make it forward, but they got a lot out of the show anyway (excellent press material, enthusiastic critiques, plenty of new fans). I wouldn't be surprised if AGT invites them back someday for a guest performance.

Erik10101 (talk) 20:21, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

It's tough to tell who placed higher between the two. I wouldn't be surprised if CL actually beat BB in the actual vote since the Dunkin' Save vote was so close (38 vs 34). I think BB's fans are more loyal (i.e. creating fake accounts, calling all their family to vote, posting posters), but CL has more fans.

I don't really believe a xenophobic or race card. After all, Kenichi, Olate Dogs, Landau, and Neal all won in previous years. Plenty of non-white people have made it far. Last week's three top white people, all made it for explainable reasons (talent, family, etc.), stuff that would not change if they were other races. I think Siro-A being from Japan makes them harder for Americans to relate to, which hurt their vote totals. That doesn't mean people are xenophobic though.

I don't like calling us "smarter." It's just the our priorities are for the most talented people to make it. Time and time again, America happened to value supporting people who they think deserve to make it. Talent just won't always be their number one way to determine that. Siro-A had plenty of fans, but I don't think they had "insanely loyal" fans like Drew or BB did who would vote more than 100 times each. As more voting happens online, that becomes very, very important.

Yeah, there are plenty of "idiots" out there (some think Oz's tricks are staged, some blame Drew for eliminating Siro-A as if it was between them two for the Finals, etc.) but I don't think the white-face affected voting in anyway, to be honest.

In the end, yes, I agree that people like us who care about the legitimacy of the show are "better" viewers. But we know coming into any show with voting that the right decisions will not always be made. It's a shame, but still, Siro-A DID make it to the Semifinals, and that's enough for me.

Erik10101 (talk) 16:17, September 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * A Winners page is definitely a good idea! During the offseason, we should try to make more specialized pages like "Winners", "Judges' Choice" or "Golden Buzzers." I'll try to make a model resembling your image in the next week or so.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 06:47, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

End of Season 10 Thoughts
Honestly, and I say this because you deserve to know what I thought, you were kind of beating a dead horse. Yeah, of course the elimination of Siro-A was disappointing. But once we all shared our thoughts about it, we got over it. Yeah, they were out a little early, but they still made it all the way to the Semifinals. They left the show with great exposure, many new fans. One less performance is a shame, but we still got to see four very solid ones. You brought it up a lot more times than you needed to. We all got it, and we all understood you. Yes, some of your comments went a little too far, but fortunately none of BB's rabid fans will be looking at them. The classification of them as "idiots" or "stupid" is unfair. People get enamored of whatever they want to. There's a reason singing is such a popular talent. In the end, even all his fans weren't able to get him into the Top 5. Sure BB has his issues, but in the end he's doing all this for his family and I respect him for that. As long as he didn't win, whatever.

Yeah, I'm ecstatic Paul won too! He did some things with ventriloquism much better than any other on the show. He was also funnier than every other comedian. Great to see The Regurgitator make it so far. I never expected it either considering his "disgusting" act. Yeah, I was thrilled with the Top 5 too. They were the genuine five most talented of last night, in my opinion.

Erik10101 (talk) 15:56, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, the color coding of the Top 3 is a good idea!

Erik10101 (talk) 04:58, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting that he was on both shows within a couple of months! It makes you wonder how the rules work. Like it was odd how Laura won a show while she was still on AGT.

Erik10101 (talk) 02:36, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Season 11
So far, it's solid! I'm seeing a lot of parallels/rip-offs of past seasons (Laura Bretan, Jose and Carrie), and I'm disappointed with so many fodder acts going through (Charles and Rose), but that happens every year.

I think The Clairvoyants, Linkin' Bridge, Hara, and Tape Face were the standouts of the night, though not necessarily the frontrunners.

Erik10101 (talk) 16:51, June 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * I think Hara's toast. His magic tricks are really nothing new, and I don't see him stepping up the projections from his audition. He doesn't do anything unique with them like Kenichi did with his astute precision. The lack of a backstory/memorable personality hurts his chances too.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 22:53, June 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hara makes Kenichi look like Big Barry. ~Curious Poker Chip 5:07 p.m. June 2nd, 2016 (Pacific)

I don't think Hara has a chance either. Especially after what happened to Siro-A. I question why I even watch this show anymore.

JayDK103 (talk) 01:16, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think Hara is even a quarter as good as Siro-A or Kenichi. I don't see him doing much unique stuff with projections later, since his act is primarily magic (on YouTube).

Erik10101 (talk)


 * I agree that this week's episode was pretty average, but I'm still really optimistic for the season. It's really hard to judge based on just two episodes.


 * Erik10101 (talk) 02:43, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Right now the Season 11 Auditions page is updated. There were more in between, including some alumni!
 * Erik10101 (talk) 00:47, June 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * I like the splitting up idea.


 * It's hard to say a lot right now with the episode airing, but the first three dance groups were montaged, while the fourth got a lot of screentime. Only one reject so far, but there are a bunch of unknowns (cameos during this alumni backstage montage).


 * As for the fighting, I say we all just need to avoid fights. The snarkiness is unnecessary from all sides, and I think we can all move on from this. I think you are right that Keldemption was a little snarky, but you were too. Just try not to bring up Siro-A every single week since not all of us want to be reminded of the unfair voting.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:05, June 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Glad you're promoting SIro-A, but make sure you lean more towards positive than negative. They still made it pretty far, and had many viral videos to promote themselves. They are the kind of act that will be remembered well.


 * No, I don't think we affected BB in any way. I think some of us were way too worried about his possibly winning. It's great that he needed the Dunkin' Save before the Finals, or else it would have been a lot more stressful. There's no chance we have that much power; the internet is ultimately just a subset of most of the viewers. It only really matters for those Dunkin' Saves, which aren't that important in the long run.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 01:25, June 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * It looks like they were added unsourced. We should contact the person who made the edits where they got that information, but we undo the edits if they don't respond in a while. I wouldn't be surprised if it's accurate, but if it's not in the episode, it's harder to verify.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 04:55, June 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah it's the same person. I think it is probably Bannard, but I remember the show saying Bernard.  I cannot confirm though. I can check tomorrow, but I was just going to work on Accepted Acts tonight because I have work early tomorrow.
 * Erik10101 (talk) 05:15, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

But that is not what happened on the show..why does it let the public who were at auditions edit?

There is no reason for it to be removed; that is exactly what happened, and it provides information that explains his elimination. That said, if that's the only part members remove, I don't think it's worth fixating on. If they keep removing it, it's okay to leave it missing.

Erik10101 (talk) 04:31, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Bummer to hear about another death... Yeah, I would agree that it's probably genuine that he died.

Erik10101 (talk) 14:08, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Good work with those acts in Season 7! I'm not sure if that is Ayanna either. Ayanna looks a lot older than the AGT girl.

Erik10101 (talk) 02:44, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

I'd say keep swearing to a minimum. There are plenty of ways to express ourselves without resorting to foul language that might make some people uncomfortable.

It's a good idea to identify these acts early so we can get that content on the site. Makes the process much faster!

Erik10101 (talk) 14:32, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

One I think is coming up is Chris Funk. I'm not sure if the previews are completely accurate (for example Chris Funk once showed up in one after an episode but still hasn't appeared), but hopefully they show acts that actually get screen time!

Judge Cuts are going to be annoying when we see a lot of new acts, and some contenders just disappear... Erik10101 (talk) 02:15, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

I think the section is definitely helpful for the rest of the auditions and the Judge Cuts, but after that, we have no reason to keep them on the site. Information is so much harder to verify when we don't get any footage. Erik10101 (talk) 02:36, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

I think you are right about Villain, while it's good we have the information for the nails woman now! Erik10101 (talk) 22:44, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

More Season 11
I usually just arbitrarily pick screencaps that are either flashy or that feature the judges/host. I can see how last week's picture was bad; I don't mind taking another one if you have a recommendation!

I just figured referring to the show first makes the most sense, do you know? I always saw the names that appear on the show as how the acts decided to be registered. After that, the show's webpages are the next level to check. I see what you're saying about Amazing Christopher being a more interesting name, but I have not seen it used in any of the show's advertising. The show only referred to him as Christopher. I don't think we should veer too much from what's given or it might be harder for fans of the show to find certain pages. Erik10101 (talk) 04:56, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Something else I want to add: I must apologize for my weird category organization. I've been doing it in a somewhat alphabetical order fashion since I started, but I realize the procedure was needlessly confusing. Starting this week, I have been organizing them in this order: Act -Accepted/Rejected Acts - Act Types in alphabetical order - Season 11 Act - Season 11 Accepted/Rejected / Season 11 Act Types in alphabetical order. Do you like that better? It really doesn't matter, I guess. Erik10101 (talk) 05:02, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

I like the first screen cap much more than the one we had before! That would make a great replacement for 1104.png!

Agreed! The little bit of OCD in me will probably re-rganize those categories, but let me know if you think we should come up with something reasonable. Or, we can just not care! Thanks for your help this week! It's making overall work go by much more quickly! Erik10101 (talk) 05:19, June 29, 2016 (UTC) From the ridiculous favoritism and sob stories so far in the auditions, I think this season will have even greater upsets honestly. I'm pretty pleased with the variety so far though.

I think it's something that if I'm ever browsing a page, I'll move around the categories. It's not worth making an actual effort to standardize the category order since it is probably the least looked part of a page.

Including a screen cap is a great idea! We should just dig up the screen cap that you got earlier and add it to the page somewhere like you did with Jessica Sanchez. I actually got the name Namcini from closed-caption subtitles while I was watching the episode. Hopefully it's accurate! Erik10101 (talk) 05:33, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I think there are a lot of solid acts here and there, but not a lot have jumped out as favorites like Piff or Freckled Sky or of course, Siro-A did last year. I look forward to a frontrunner (that is NOT a Voice-eligible singer) emerging in the next few weeks. Paul managed to build a lot of momentum after his surprise (to me) Golden Buzzer, and Mat Franco always seemed to just bubble up through to the next round. Now, both of them are in Vegas with their own shows!

Agreed. It looked like an older woman, but I will check again tomorrow. We could probably identify her in a couple of days...

I agree we should add the picture with the puppets (or like your second picture of Mika) to the page somewhere. Lee Hokes and wife Mamata might be the name of the escape artist and his assistant. Can you check if that's a real name? Erik10101 (talk) 05:47, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

I thought the girl's real legs in the first half of the box were hiding in the cinderblocks while the second half of the box had a different pair of legs. Erik10101 (talk) 07:10, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

I remember that trick as one of the best in AGT history! I remember back then everyone thought Kevin would be a finalist, but then he disappointed with his first live round trick.

I'm not sure, but I thought the top half of the guy was a real person with no legs, while the legs were robotic. Erik10101 (talk) 07:20, June 29, 2016 (UTC) I remember that trick was so good when I first saw it, and I thought it was really unique. Then even Antonio Restive did it, and some later acts too. I kind of miss the big illusion tricks since I feel like magic has been relegated to card tricks or close-up magic lately (i.e. Piff, Derek, Mat, Smoothini, Jon Dorenbos, etc.).

I wish Drew made it farther than he did, but he was good from what I remember. I personally still can't get over how Landon Swank pulled his Vegas Round balloon trick! That was really unique to me! Erik10101 (talk) 07:28, June 29, 2016 (UTC) I do not actually believe in a conspiracy. I just feel like we tend not to like acts that a certain voting sect votes for in droves. Erik10101 (talk) 08:01, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Nice! Hopefully we can also find that GB act. She had a very unique red dress/clothes.

I think probably less than 5%. The show averages about 10 million viewers, while the show's Facebook page has about 4 million fans. I think about 10% of those people are active on the page and about half of that audience votes. This is all just an estimate though. Erik10101 (talk) 11:52, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

You might be onto something. I'll take a look, but you are probably right! Erik10101 (talk) 16:08, June 30, 2016 (UTC)

As an admin on the site, you are expected to have tact in how you approach talking to other users on the site and the performers. Don't pick fights when they are unprovoked, and take the high road when you can. You should not fixate on grudges and don't let it affect the main purpose of the site (i.e. adding slander to a page or deleting a page because they "don't deserve one"). I have never once thought you deserve to lose your privileges, but I do recommend you toning down some of your critiques. I've already noticed a really good improvement!

You do have to remember that if you want to argue with these performers, you don't represent the Wiki. Don't use your title as an admin on the site as validation of your opinion.

Erik10101 (talk) 15:41, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, as long as nobody is provoked or arguments don't carry over to the Wiki, then we are good!

Understood. Thanks for letting me know!

Erik10101 (talk) 23:00, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

I have not remembered to look into it, but if you think you have enough proof the guy's real identity, I trust you! Go ahead.

Erik10101 (talk) 23:41, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

You seem to be right! There's no way this is not the guy in the AGT pic, puppet and all: http://www.musicunlimitedtalent.com/MAGICIANS%26SHOWS/joecaffey.html

Erik10101 (talk) 23:47, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

I used commas for The Passing Zone's ages because if it was just 39, 49, it would misleadingly imply this was the ages of the two different guys rather than their ages 10 years apart. That's why I used 39; 49.

Do you think that was reasonable?

Erik10101 (talk) 00:59, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

I haven't touched the page recently, but I like that idea!

Erik10101 (talk) 01:05, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

Tomorrow is just a "best of the season" episode that might have a couple new acts. I'm personally going to hold off until it comes online if there's anything to add to the site. I remember Mad Jack debuted on one of these specials.

Erik10101 (talk) 02:04, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

The Asian throat singers you showed me were actually pretty good! I feel like throat singing just won't appeal to a mass audience especially when the judges/producers don't seem to take it seriously on AGT.

Jackie Lee seems correct, while Emily Graetz could be found on a UMich site (with her name spelled slightly differently in subtitles for an official video.

It's a bummer, but he just does not seem dynamic enough. I think he was good though.

Erik10101 (talk) 10:41, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

I have not seen the full "best of" yet, so I do not know. Sure, we can add him. At least with Judge Cuts we are guaranteed to see him perform... maybe?

Erik10101 (talk) 04:32, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

That's a good idea to add Nick to that episode. It was a special case after all!

I would hesitate on adding John to the Reba episode so early. I'm not sure the "sad song" she mentioned was referring to him. The other ones I added based on what the judges were wearing, or what was explicitly said (like Louis referring to the six-year old).

Erik10101 (talk) 15:58, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Technically they filmed the Judge Cuts a couple months ago too, so I am not sure if that is a good indication. I think we should wait until they explicitly say they will be appearing.

Erik10101 (talk) 13:29, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

No, I don't know who that is! Nice to see interest in the polls though.

Erik10101 (talk) 01:57, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

It sucks to hear that, but I understand!

Erik10101 (talk) 00:22, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Perfect pic! I just renamed it to 1109.png since that's what the other episode pages had. Also, I literally gave up on the stream because my computer's connection was weak. So I've been catching up by reading the chat and watching YouTube clips... :/

Erik10101 (talk) 02:20, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll definitely be watching for those.

I don't watch BGT so I have no idea. I trust your expertise though if you want to add that to trivia. or perhaps we should just mention it, but not say "first" until we're sure?

Erik10101 (talk) 02:26, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

I found these this time on nbcumv.com. There, look for AGT on the shows panel, and you see images meant for July 20. And yeah, they are now in that section until we learn the Top 36.

Erik10101 (talk) 05:52, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

I agree that she looks like an acrobatic dancer! And there's this magician I found named Armando Vera, but with those small pictures, it's too hard to tell.

Hopefully GettyImages gets the pics soon! You have to look up "CBS Radford Auditions" to find them.

Erik10101 (talk) 12:10, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure at all. Maybe we should pick a standout act or one that was very theatrical. Maybe Victor with the glowing ball? ThroWings? Admittedly I have not seen Clairvoyants yet, but they could work too.

By the way, I'm no longer sure if the leaked acts I saw are for this week or Week 3 or something else, so I undid those edits. Look at the "Live Show 1" and "Live Show 2" sections here: http://www.nbcumv.com/programming/nbc-entertainment/americas-got-talent/episodes-schedule?network=33129

They have completely different acts.

Erik10101 (talk) 05:15, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

I think we should hold off on any edits before we get an official announcement. One is bound to be coming.

About your question about updating those act's pages, I would personally hold off on that. They are bound to announce something on Twitter/Facebook in the next 12 hours. Also, I have work n 6 hours and really just want to finish as much as I can of this week from the clips.

Erik10101 (talk) 05:51, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

For the new colors, I was really just experimenting with the templates. If you look at the Episode 1013 page for example, it's a lot cleaner. While working on those, I felt the green/pink was kind of jarring together. They don't even show up on Mobile. So I thought one color was sufficient, and since the gold looks great on some of the Season 11 pages, I thought it would just be consistent. Do you agree with that? I can easily change the template Template:Grouping3 (where 3 is number of acts in the group) to the original colors.

I think it's work we don't really have to do. I figure it makes sense for a Results show because that is the only content of that episode. There is nothing wrong with adding that information, but I personally would not put in that extra effort.

Even though it is a Saturday, it's still pretty late here (4:01 am), so I was planning to go to bed soon. Sorry about that! I just wanted to finish up the template.

Erik10101 (talk) 08:01, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

I just changed it to lightgreen like you preferred, and I do like how it looks! I also bolded the names of the acts who made through, again, for Mobile.

Again, I don't think it's necessary, but if you ever want to add it, it's all yours! Erik10101 (talk) 08:17, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, you should go to this link http://www.poll-maker.com/poll762475x01fB4C98-31 and vote for who you think will advance to the semifinals.

Hey, you should go to this link http://www.poll-maker.com/poll762475x01fB4C98-31 and vote for who you think will advance to the semifinals. Xboy971 (talk) 21:00, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

Tabs
I think that is an excellent idea! It would clear up a lot of confusion, especially about the ages for contestants. We also wouldn't have to have that older photo at the end of every page.

As time permits, I will absolutely look into implementing those! The official photos is a good idea too, but will we be able to find the official cast photos for all the past seasons?

Erik10101 (talk) 04:49, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I will see what I can do!

Erik10101 (talk) 11:59, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

I have an example of the tabs working on The Passing Zone's page. How do you think it looks?

Syntax:
 * image2= Season 11=Thepassingzone.png|-|Season 1=thepassingzone.jpg

Erik10101 (talk) 05:27, July 31, 2016 (UTC)

I do not believe there is a way to make the default image the second tab if we want it in numerical order. Even the Survivor one has the newest season first. And on this site, we definitely want users to see the newest images first.

The third tab will be no issue. It's just:


 * image2= Season 11=Thepassingzone.png|-|Season 1=thepassingzone.jpg|-Third Image=thirdimage.jpg

Erik10101 (talk) 05:36, July 31, 2016 (UTC)

No worries, and we just have to make it so that those names never match a new performer. We should be fine there! And yeah, we can't let events outside the Wiki to affect development here, sorry about that.

Erik10101 (talk) 05:49, July 31, 2016 (UTC)

For consistency, we should use the audition images as the default. It makes more sense to me because not every act has an NBC image.

Erik10101 (talk) 14:57, July 31, 2016 (UTC)

That's a good question. I like the sound of "NBC" or "Promotional" or "Promo". You are right that we should try to keep the names short.

Erik10101 (talk) 23:15, July 31, 2016 (UTC)

I personally don't think it's necessary. It makes a lot more sense for Survivor because the competition is very different each season (age, name different teams, different placements, different challenges won, different votes against, etc.). For AGT only age and season change. Do you agree?

Should we not wait to add the tabs only after we have the pictures? I don't like the idea of red links.

Erik10101 (talk) 01:25, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

The red 250 px text irks me just a little bit, but it is not as bad because at least the audition picture exists!

Erik10101 (talk) 04:13, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

I guess in those cases, just use exactly which round (i.e. Judge Cuts or Judgment Week)?

Erik10101 (talk) 05:36, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

If we can't find an NBC image, I think we should just keep the photo like it already was (just the audition), without any tabs.

Erik10101 (talk) 01:53, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

Not yet, but I will try to play around with it soon.

Erik10101 (talk) 15:26, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

It's not the most relevant page in the world. It would be a courtesy to ask Izzyfan, who created the page, if they plan to complete it. Otherwise, we should scrap it because neither you or me want to finish it.

Erik10101 (talk) 23:49, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

Cast photos
It would be a really difficult task for me to photoshop the cast photos unless I have the background image and every contestant's photo. So from my searches, I have found the cast photos for Season 10 contestants that we can use: Keldemption (talk) 04:23, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

http://gossipandgab.com/79474/americas-got-talent-2015-live-show-week-1-acts-sneak-peek-photos

http://gossipandgab.com/79902/americas-got-talent-2015-quarterfinals-week-2-acts-sneak-peek-photos

http://gossipandgab.com/80455/americas-got-talent-2015-quarterfinals-week-3-sneak-peek-photos

I cannot find the cast photos for those Season 9 acts with the star background. I wish I could but I cannot find the source of the star background used the contestants. I recall that those acts you mentioned were among those that skipped judgement week. The images for those contestants on NBC.com did not include that background (e.g. Nina Burri) and I don't remember if they were updated with that star background prior to their elimination. Keldemption (talk) 00:00, August 17, 2016 (UTC)